To save posting two separate responses, I'll cover both Gordon's comments and Brad's in one go -
GORDON wrote:I think the wonderful Sue Holton has supplied you with a YOUTUBE link to me playing the GG 12 string .Worth a look maybe?
More than 'maybe' Gordon. For anyone else following this thread who missed Sue's response to a separate query that I posted, this is the link. It's great to see Gordon playing one of his classic tunes on the Vintage 12:http://youtu.be/stv9xJyo3ME
GORDON wrote:I rarely play the 12 string these days.Maybe I should get round to writing something new for it.
Or even just recording one or two more 'classics'. It would be especially interesting to see and hear you play one of your 'softer' compositions or arrangements on the Vintage - such as you recorded for your wonderful 'Midnight clear' LP/CD.
GORDON wrote:As good as my signature model sounds, I still can't praise the Paul Brett model high enough...
For me, that comment typifies why you're so admired, Gordon. And not just for your playing.
Without getting too huggy-huggy, kiss-on-the-cheekish, your generosity of spirit in so openly lauding particular strengths of an instrument which bears the signature of someone else, clearly stands as testament to your openness of mind and attitude to life.
GORDON wrote:...as someone pointed out, this is a purpose built 12 string and NOT just a 12 string version of a 6 string.
That was possibly me, although once you start digging into the specs, it's clearly stated and explained.
BRC wrote:the technical information first:
at the nut = 51mm
at the saddle 59mm
Thanks Brad. I want to compare against guitars I already have to better estimate how well my left-hand problem might be able to cope with a 12 string smaller than my dreadnought Crafter.
BRC wrote:I have had the same sort of hits for demo of the Ve2000GG 12 string so ..... Gordon, any chances of a demo by you, a very nice 'please'?
See above for the link Sue sent me.
BRC wrote:I had a try of the 6 string version and was impressed with that, though the 12 string seemed to be very elusive until recently.
Frustratingly, I have TWO shops near where I live which sell Vintage guitars. The one is a small concern and, sensibly, they mostly stock a range of instruments that will appeal to, and be affordable by, the pupils who attend all the local primary and upper schools. The other shop which is only 25 minutes drive-time away is one I wouldn't give the time of day to (let alone money) as the owner/manager has a ghastly reputation for being unfriendly and unhelpful. I experienced this once myself a few years back, so although I now regularly look at the shop window display, I wouldn't dream of stepping inside. (I've never seen evidence of either the Vintage PB12 nor the GG12 in the window or inside the shop anyway). Heaven alone knows how or why he stays in business .... maybe just so he can play upon the instruments that he stocks?
BRC wrote:I even picked up on your comments on the Shubb capo so ordered one Friday, received today and successfully tried - good call.
Capos for 6 strings are rarely a problem as long as you buy a reputable make and not one of those cheap clones, but capos for 12 strings can be tricky. On my Crafter 12 I found that the G7th and Kyser capos weren't as effective as the Shubb. On the Crafter, if I place the Shubb halfway between
frets instead of close behind a fret, the detuning effect is minimal. But as I said before - capos and player preferences are very individual things.
BRC wrote:I hurt my left wrist (don't ask), just below the thumb, on Friday
I broke my right wrist some years ago but that is no longer a problem despite not having set in quite the right position. My problem is that damaged index finger on my left hand, so now I have a rather strange playing style which favours the middle finger as 'lead'. Chords are often difficult because the left index finger can land in the wrong place and/or impact on adjacent strings so that they're muted or partially fretted. I thus often play with that finger 'floating' high so it's out of the way.
BRC wrote:I will give an update on whether or not I was able to try a Paul Brett 12 stringer as soon as possible after that day. Good idea on a possible separate thread.
It will interesting to read if you end up in a position to write it.
I've started a thread for anyone who is able to directly comment on both the PB12 and the GG12.
I've just started another new thread where members might like to post details, dates and venues for any guitar fairs
scheduled to take place in their area. Near me, there will be an acoustic fair this coming Sunday (March 23rd) so that will be my best chance to try the PB abd GG 12 strings ... I hope.